Comments on: Soured Milk Chocolate Cake http://www.completelyedible.com/2009/04/soured-milk-chocolate-cake/ I like food. Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:01:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Stacy http://www.completelyedible.com/2009/04/soured-milk-chocolate-cake/comment-page-1/#comment-29 Stacy Wed, 06 May 2009 16:15:19 +0000 http://www.completelyedible.com/?p=92#comment-29 Hi Jeremy, Thank you for your comment! Yes, if you cook raw milk (or soured raw milk) properly, any pathogens will be killed off. Of course the beneficial bacteria will be killed and enzymes will be denatured too. I purchase raw milk and I drink much of that raw milk, well, raw. Straight out of the fridge. I posted about how <a href="http://www.completelyedible.com/2009/05/i-know-my-farmer/" rel="nofollow">I know my farmer</a> - I've met him, talked to him, etc. I am planning to visit the farm soon. Because of the kind of farm he has, I have little worry about the safety of the milk I consume. A blog I love has a great post going over the benefits of raw milk, and talks about its safety as well. You can find that post <a href="http://www.cheeseslave.com/2009/01/23/top-ten-reasons-to-drink-raw-milk/" rel="nofollow">here</a>. An interesting point about the safety of raw milk is that milk (in any form) caused less food poisoning in 1997 than vegetables did! Even recently in the news, there have been pistachio scares, peanut butter scares, sprout scares, etc, and all very wide spread (affecting large regions if not the entire country), while no one who gets milk from any of the farms I get milk from have reported a single illness. Everyone should make their own decision on what is best for them. I am an advocate of freedom of choice when it comes to milk. I'm glad that I can get it raw! But if you don't want to drink it raw, that is ok. :) Hi Jeremy,

Thank you for your comment! Yes, if you cook raw milk (or soured raw milk) properly, any pathogens will be killed off. Of course the beneficial bacteria will be killed and enzymes will be denatured too. I purchase raw milk and I drink much of that raw milk, well, raw. Straight out of the fridge. I posted about how I know my farmer – I’ve met him, talked to him, etc. I am planning to visit the farm soon. Because of the kind of farm he has, I have little worry about the safety of the milk I consume.

A blog I love has a great post going over the benefits of raw milk, and talks about its safety as well. You can find that post here. An interesting point about the safety of raw milk is that milk (in any form) caused less food poisoning in 1997 than vegetables did! Even recently in the news, there have been pistachio scares, peanut butter scares, sprout scares, etc, and all very wide spread (affecting large regions if not the entire country), while no one who gets milk from any of the farms I get milk from have reported a single illness.

Everyone should make their own decision on what is best for them. I am an advocate of freedom of choice when it comes to milk. I’m glad that I can get it raw! But if you don’t want to drink it raw, that is ok. :)

]]> By: Jeremy Warner MD http://www.completelyedible.com/2009/04/soured-milk-chocolate-cake/comment-page-1/#comment-28 Jeremy Warner MD Wed, 06 May 2009 15:11:03 +0000 http://www.completelyedible.com/?p=92#comment-28 That's a great use for soured milk - my grandmother passed down a recipe for sour cream chocolate cake that I'm sure was made from raw milk gone off in the days before pasteurization. Plus the baking will kill off the pathogenic bacteria. You should know that even cows kept on small farms will harbor certain strains of harmful bacteria which occur naturally - listeria, salmonella, mycobacteria. For this reason I currently recommend (along with the FDA and CDC) against consuming raw milk in uncooked form, unless it's exceedingly fresh. That’s a great use for soured milk – my grandmother passed down a recipe for sour cream chocolate cake that I’m sure was made from raw milk gone off in the days before pasteurization. Plus the baking will kill off the pathogenic bacteria. You should know that even cows kept on small farms will harbor certain strains of harmful bacteria which occur naturally – listeria, salmonella, mycobacteria. For this reason I currently recommend (along with the FDA and CDC) against consuming raw milk in uncooked form, unless it’s exceedingly fresh.

]]> By: Stacy http://www.completelyedible.com/2009/04/soured-milk-chocolate-cake/comment-page-1/#comment-16 Stacy Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:15:46 +0000 http://www.completelyedible.com/?p=92#comment-16 Julie, that is too bad it sours so fast! I can usually get 5-7 days of sweet tasting milk before it sours. That is usually enough time for me to drink it all or use it in cereal. But it is good to have these recipes and ideas for the times when I can't get to it fast enough. Meg, how lucky you are to have a goat! I have another recipe queued up that would be delicious with goat milk! Julie, that is too bad it sours so fast! I can usually get 5-7 days of sweet tasting milk before it sours. That is usually enough time for me to drink it all or use it in cereal. But it is good to have these recipes and ideas for the times when I can’t get to it fast enough.

Meg, how lucky you are to have a goat! I have another recipe queued up that would be delicious with goat milk!

]]> By: Meg http://www.completelyedible.com/2009/04/soured-milk-chocolate-cake/comment-page-1/#comment-15 Meg Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:46:51 +0000 http://www.completelyedible.com/?p=92#comment-15 Oooh... this sounds good. Our goat is giving us a gallon and a half of milk a day, so I KNOW I'm going to be needing this recipe sometime soon! Oooh… this sounds good. Our goat is giving us a gallon and a half of milk a day, so I KNOW I’m going to be needing this recipe sometime soon!

]]> By: Julie http://www.completelyedible.com/2009/04/soured-milk-chocolate-cake/comment-page-1/#comment-14 Julie Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:04:47 +0000 http://www.completelyedible.com/?p=92#comment-14 looking forward to future posts on soured milk. we've switched to raw milk, but I'm super frustrated that ours sours so fast (after about 3 days!) My son is super taste/smell sensitive so he stops drinking it the fastest. Hubby and I can usually stomach one more day. I know raw is so good...but it is expensive looking forward to future posts on soured milk. we’ve switched to raw milk, but I’m super frustrated that ours sours so fast (after about 3 days!) My son is super taste/smell sensitive so he stops drinking it the fastest. Hubby and I can usually stomach one more day. I know raw is so good…but it is expensive

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